The Treaty of Lisbon has been ratified

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Post by SilverShadows on Thu Nov 05, 2009 8:42 pm

well you do have a choice you have a choice of who to vote for every vote does count and if everyone thought like that the system would nt work
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Post by emmy on Fri Nov 06, 2009 5:43 am

for once i agree. the combination of individualism and fatalism is deadly for democracy.
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Post by Thingy on Fri Nov 06, 2009 7:52 am

Yes, but fortunately, again, there wil always be a bunch of people who think like you so people like me dont have to care. And besides, it's not like i can change everyone else's mind and make them go vote.
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Post by SilverShadows on Fri Nov 06, 2009 2:37 pm

thats the problem with democracy now no one cares to vote
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Post by Kiyoshi Midnight on Fri Nov 06, 2009 3:16 pm

Which is quite true in the U.S ... When your younger, your all like "I want to go vote!! He shouldn't... blah blah blah etc, etc..." but by the time you reach the age of legally being able to vote your like "Meh, what is the point of it now?"

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Post by SilverShadows on Fri Nov 06, 2009 3:20 pm

tnhats because people arent educated in politics properly if they were they would understand the need to vote and to have your say
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Post by Kiyoshi Midnight on Fri Nov 06, 2009 3:23 pm

Yeah, but majority vote doesn't usually come to anything. When it all comes down to it, it's the Electoral Colleges with their special electorial votes that get to choose.

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Post by SilverShadows on Fri Nov 06, 2009 3:24 pm

well i have no idea what that means i assume it something american
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Post by Kiyoshi Midnight on Fri Nov 06, 2009 3:29 pm

Quite. For us, we only have so much in the way of public voting...

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Post by Shemuel on Sat Nov 07, 2009 5:35 pm

Josh wrote:no no no thats not what i meant, one part of the treaty was that member states gave up the right to veto the entrance of new states

So that's how they're getting Turkey in.

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Re: The Treaty of Lisbon has been ratified

Post by SilverShadows on Sat Nov 07, 2009 5:35 pm

yeh because grece no longer has the veto
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Post by Thingy on Sat Nov 07, 2009 5:42 pm

Or the other EU nations with morals and any goal other than making us more capable in a global willy waving competition. Besides, they're alredy in NATO, so we'd win those competitions anyways.
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Re: The Treaty of Lisbon has been ratified

Post by Thingy on Sat Nov 07, 2009 5:45 pm

And god... Schengen... Sweden and the UK would get swarmed in immigrants 5 hours after they sign it... (it takes 5 hours to get there by plane)
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Re: The Treaty of Lisbon has been ratified

Post by Shemuel on Sat Nov 07, 2009 5:55 pm

Germany already have loads of Turkish...they wouldn't legally be able to get rid of them if turkey joined.

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